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Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby t459 » Sep 24th, '16, 15:22

Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Loki » Sep 24th, '16, 16:03

another one alch mb?
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby t459 » Sep 24th, '16, 16:09

Loki wrote:another one alch mb?
I do not understand what you mean :-/

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby umid2025 » Sep 24th, '16, 16:39

Alchemist vs. Alchemist, he means.

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby t459 » Sep 24th, '16, 16:51

No, My friend has play alchemist

I play different heroes but I never beat alchemist with Radiance...

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Gba228 » Sep 24th, '16, 17:26

AA?

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby makabago » Sep 25th, '16, 08:41

t459 wrote:Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?



huskar can easily destroy alchemist in 1 on 1

or mortred if u are good

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby KnightOfShadow » Sep 26th, '16, 01:14

No get Legion (lc ) bro trust Me
you need
dagger
bladmail
itmes like deso or crisl anything
use spell 2 then dagger active ur bm ulti him
win duel ez

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby umid2025 » Sep 26th, '16, 04:08

Legion might work out. Because Huskar is bad in pushing and if Alchemist doesn't want to fight, he will push. Legion is both good in pushing and fighting. Although, he is nothing without his damage won from duels.
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Mortrus » Sep 26th, '16, 04:43

Just don't give him a chance to make radiance. That's is the answer.
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby hul] » Sep 26th, '16, 09:57

Naix obviously

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby ghostdlr » Sep 27th, '16, 10:14

Ursa and don't let him touch creeps .

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Aceroo » Sep 28th, '16, 07:01

doom should end everything he can go 1v1 with all heroes 1st build aganim and lvl4 spell 2 and your good to go

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby shers » Sep 30th, '16, 15:19

Aceroo wrote:doom should end everything he can go 1v1 with all heroes 1st build aganim and lvl4 spell 2 and your good to go


If Alch uses ulti first his regen will override the Doom. So it's not so problematic for Alch
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Aceroo » Oct 3rd, '16, 00:50

doom with aganims never stops when its inside the 900 radius so just run near that alche and dont let him touch you wait till the ss of the thing go down and there his dying just use your 2nd skill after his ss gone and you can tank towers while alches doom never ends with that 900radius get it?

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby shers » Oct 3rd, '16, 14:40

Aceroo wrote:doom with aganims never stops when its inside the 900 radius so just run near that alche and dont let him touch you wait till the ss of the thing go down and there his dying just use your 2nd skill after his ss gone and you can tank towers while alches doom never ends with that 900radius get it?


Alch can easily go to woods when doomed. Alch's farm is faster than Doom's. And THE GREATEST ONE
Linken's Sphere
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Aceroo » Oct 5th, '16, 03:47

3rd skill of doom can trigger linken and why farm in one 1v1? its only mid you leave you mid doom push and it ends with push push get a lot of gold and exp from creeps than farming and go to woods? as i said doom will never end with in 900 range it means even you hide from woods doom is killing you while doom is looking for you not to mention the 2ndskill off doom will eat you while your hiding and its easy to look players from that woods of yours woods use is for some blind spots but hiding its 20% chance that he will not notice you

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Aceroo » Oct 5th, '16, 03:53

read doom ss with agamins 16seconds and that time dont go down unless your @ 900range of doom and even if you manage to hide for about 5 or 10 seconds and again spoted by doom timer will stop going down again inside the 900 range, so it means doom is in balance @ 1v1 you can try it if you want play dota with a friend a good player ofcourse and try to ask him to build aganims and take devour the neutrals that gives 15% movement speed and that will end your alche why? doom movement speed with boots+2ndskill+15% from devour creeps is @ 420 pluse i think so no escape from running

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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby shers » Oct 5th, '16, 15:16

Goblin's greed>Devour. Alch with Manta can also farm woods and line. Manta illusion can be a bite for Doom's ulti. Alch is good in outpushing and may to buy some damage stuff for killing (Alch's fighting build through Lothar's and Solar). Doom's problem is a DPS. He can't be so good DD as Alch anyway. With wolf too. Alch under Doom under his ulti and Armlet can just fight Luci and kill him. What do you think is Doom's respawn timer is bigger than 16 seconds?

Next problem
Almighty COOLDOWN on DOOM. Refresher's ALSO have a CD. So Alch have a lot of time for farming.

Also, I know about Doom ability mechanic. He's on my userpic ;)
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Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1

Postby Aceroo » Oct 7th, '16, 00:50

not really possible if the doom player is good why?, your saying alche with manta and with manta needs radians to farm do you know how much that cost and doom will end the game early before alche do the late game/farm the only thing dooms need is aganims and alche need a lots of items to do the line and farm woth manta and with early gameplay of doom alche cant farm if he farm for manta and radians doom will push and if alche line doom will kill him with the combo skill, and your saying about the CD?, yah its a bit 100sec up but that 100sec is just 2mins just 2mins 100sec CD is bad for clash but to a 1 v 1 not really..why?, if alche die from doom alche respawn 40 to 60 sec and that kills the CD of doom by haft doom only needs to wait 1min for that and alche is really a late game hero he needs gold to win while doom needs doom and 2ndskill only time vs gold..time is free and gold is not..your idea of alche with manta redians is good if its a late game..but that wont happen to a 1v1 without farming alche is nothing..


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